Comments on: Equal Rights Are Not anti-Christian

By: Cameron

Cameron — Tue, 05 Oct 2010 03:08:28 +0000

Oh gee…hundreds of sexual partners in a lifetime? Um, I must have missed out! Cause I sure haven’t! For that matter, as a happily monogamous gay person, who will be getting legally married the second my state gets their heads out of their asses, I know *I* don’t fit the bigots “statistics! For that matter, I have never had an STD in my life. I evidently have seriously failed to perpetuate a myth here…must try harder – NOT!

By: Hrafnkell

Hrafnkell — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:22:04 +0000

That’s pretty disturbing, Metatron. The situation in Korea and the anti-gay law in Uganda seem to be the blueprint for what Christian fundamentalists intend for the United States. I wish more Pagans realized that we are at war with these people. Thank you for bringing that to my attention; it’s something I’ll want to address myself to after surgery and when I’m out of the hospital.

By: Metatron

Metatron — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:36:28 +0000

Here’s something disturbing. Apparently the US is not the only developed country under threat from Christian fundamentalists. South Korea is much worse off: evangelical Christianity has become the majority religion there in the last 2 decades, and Buddhist temples are routinely vandalized and even burned by fanatics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_South_Korea#Religious_conflict

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/14/world/asia/14iht-buddhist.1.16935374.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

President Lee’s government, which is now Christian for the most part, apparently encourages discrimination against non Christians:

“In the spotlight of the dispute is Lee, who once outraged Buddhists by vowing, when he was mayor of Seoul, to ‘consecrate’ the capital to the Christian God.” (NY Times article)

By: fromthediagonal

fromthediagonal — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:31:41 +0000

OK… I need to wear my glasses when proof reading:
“concerned”, “predestined”, and as I still have not found those glasses to augment the contacts, I may have yet missed some errors… sorry!

By: fromthediagonal

fromthediagonal — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:27:49 +0000

Yessir!
This has been my complaint for quite some time:
“Full Speed Into The Past”, and I dread it!
As far as I am soncerned,genetic memory is real. Salmon and eels return to their ancient spawning grounds, turtles return to the beaches of their hatchings, and birds know about prestined migratory paths.
I am not alone in remembering previous experiences, and So Be It.
But this tilt towards some ultimate elitism of “Ascendancy by the Chosen” is definitely regressive… and it is the prideful ignorance which frightens me. Not for this aged self, but for my offspring, who have a very well developed non-religious internal moral compass, which is anchored in a variety of ancient philosophies, nature, nordic and vedic.

By: Hrafnkell

Hrafnkell — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:06:50 +0000

Yeah, that’s what really bothers me…So, what they’re essentially saying is that if you have the same rights we do, it’s an attack on us. And that makes no sense at all – logically or in terms of the Constitution. It’s funny that you said what you said tonight, not because it’s humorous – it’s not – but because I’d just been saying that we’re supposed to be living in the 21st century but I feel like we’re sliding back into the 13th.

By: fromthediagonal

fromthediagonal — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:02:54 +0000

I agree: Equal Rights are not Anti Christian…
They are not Anti Anything Nor Anyone!
They Just Are!!! Let me repeat: Equal Rights Are Just That… Equal!
Why is it that humanity cannot, will not, overcome the whole tribal BS!
The ancient “My Tribe Right or Wrong”, “My Tribe is better that Yours”, etc. ad nauseam, has survived millennia of evolution, like the remnant of the reptilian age that is embedded in our brain stem and which controls basic involuntary function. ARRRGH!
This ancient survival mindset is the primary (primal?) cause of fear and hatred, aggression and vengeance: “My Way of Being is the Only One”…

Oh, this could turn into a rant on how religious wars historically have outnumbered territorial disputes throughout history, and how the first order of business for any victor (speak majority) of any society is to find ways to suppress the minority by assigning to them at best the status of a lesser humanity, or to deny their humanity altogether in order to enslave them, or to torture them for mere entertainment.
The more things change, the more they remain the same! Why, Oh Why?

By: Hrafnkell

Hrafnkell — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:30:46 +0000

Yes, and I recently did a piece on the “special rights” nonsense on PoliticusUSA http://politicususa.com/en/hh-gay-marriage

I’d almost prefer them being honest enough to at least admit they’re racists – the good old boys down south do. They’re quite open about it – and they’re the Republican base. Just their lords and masters feel the need to feed the frenzy without owning up to it.

I’m really freaking tired of the “war on Christianity” line of bull. Seriously tired of it.

By: Apuleius Platonicus

Apuleius Platonicus — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:23:51 +0000

The thing that I wish more people understood is that it is a VERY big problem any time discrimination against any group can be made to appear to be socially acceptable. Racism and sexism are still huge social problems, but at least there has been a genuine sea change in terms of social acceptability. Racists now at least feel the need to deny being racist, whereas just several decades ago they proudly proclaimed their racism to the world (and the same thing goes for sexism). That is a huge change for the better. But the same people are now fighting tooth and nail to find ways to make homophobia acceptable. Fighting the bullshit about “special rights” or “defining” marriage is on the cutting edge of civil rights now.

By: Hrafnkell

Hrafnkell — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:45:31 +0000

No, not uncommon at all, unfortunately, and I agree that they are shooting themselves in the foot with their not-so-subtle appeal to racism. It’s no secret and no surprise that black voters went Democrat last election (and not just because Obama is black like the sour-grapes conservatives argue). It’s that small, racist tent they’ve erected for themselves.

I do find it interesting that some African American activists have argued that gay-lesbian rights are not the “civil rights movement of the decade” – because that’s exactly what they are. There is essentially no difference between depriving a group of their rights because of skin color and doing it because of their sexual preferences.

Like you, I hope they stick with that Southern Strategy. The base will never amount to enough to win an election.