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		<title>By: Devin Quince</title>
		<link>http://aheathensday.com/2010/01/informational-proselytizing.html#comment-2052</link>
		<dc:creator>Devin Quince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not other than Xtian, but if I see them again I will try and remember to ask.
Devin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not other than Xtian, but if I see them again I will try and remember to ask.<br />
Devin</p>
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		<title>By: Hrafnkell</title>
		<link>http://aheathensday.com/2010/01/informational-proselytizing.html#comment-2042</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrafnkell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That IS impressive, Devin. Thanks for sharing your story. Three is the charm, I guess! It is an enlightened attitude indeed to recognize that spirituality and belief can be found outside of Christianity and that they can be seen as positive and not as negative. Do you have any idea what denomination they were?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That IS impressive, Devin. Thanks for sharing your story. Three is the charm, I guess! It is an enlightened attitude indeed to recognize that spirituality and belief can be found outside of Christianity and that they can be seen as positive and not as negative. Do you have any idea what denomination they were?</p>
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		<title>By: Devin Quince</title>
		<link>http://aheathensday.com/2010/01/informational-proselytizing.html#comment-2040</link>
		<dc:creator>Devin Quince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran into some xtians on the train who wanted to pray with me. When I informed them that I have gods that watch over me, they had 3 different people try and get me to pray. The 3rd person finally asked me for information on my religion and he listened with what I felt was actual interest as I explained Asatru and Heathenry in general. At the end he said while we do not agree on gods and religion he was happy I had faith. Very impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran into some xtians on the train who wanted to pray with me. When I informed them that I have gods that watch over me, they had 3 different people try and get me to pray. The 3rd person finally asked me for information on my religion and he listened with what I felt was actual interest as I explained Asatru and Heathenry in general. At the end he said while we do not agree on gods and religion he was happy I had faith. Very impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrafnkell</title>
		<link>http://aheathensday.com/2010/01/informational-proselytizing.html#comment-2039</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrafnkell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, Makarios! Can always count on you to come up with a relevant link or quote. Just the idea of trying to understand what the other person thinks, and why, is a difficult concept for some. We don&#039;t have to agree and understanding certainly doesn&#039;t mean apostasy. But people are afraid of what they don&#039;t understand and in our case in particular, they&#039;ve been taught to fear us. Encounters like this give us the chance to show that we&#039;re &quot;just folks&quot; who happen to have different beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, Makarios! Can always count on you to come up with a relevant link or quote. Just the idea of trying to understand what the other person thinks, and why, is a difficult concept for some. We don&#8217;t have to agree and understanding certainly doesn&#8217;t mean apostasy. But people are afraid of what they don&#8217;t understand and in our case in particular, they&#8217;ve been taught to fear us. Encounters like this give us the chance to show that we&#8217;re &#8220;just folks&#8221; who happen to have different beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrafnkell</title>
		<link>http://aheathensday.com/2010/01/informational-proselytizing.html#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrafnkell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gorm, welcome and thank you for commenting. I was quite jaded myself, as I freely admit. As I said, I&#039;m predisposed to dislike proselytizers so the fact that I came away from this encounter feeling good about it did a lot for me. I can hold out some hope now that such a thing is possible again - and again. Sadly, there will always be those who think we&#039;re &quot;defective&quot; (most Evangelicals I&#039;ve met) and as I said I don&#039;t know that such an encounter is as likely with one of them but who knows? Gotta start somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gorm, welcome and thank you for commenting. I was quite jaded myself, as I freely admit. As I said, I&#8217;m predisposed to dislike proselytizers so the fact that I came away from this encounter feeling good about it did a lot for me. I can hold out some hope now that such a thing is possible again &#8211; and again. Sadly, there will always be those who think we&#8217;re &#8220;defective&#8221; (most Evangelicals I&#8217;ve met) and as I said I don&#8217;t know that such an encounter is as likely with one of them but who knows? Gotta start somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrafnkell</title>
		<link>http://aheathensday.com/2010/01/informational-proselytizing.html#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrafnkell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be nice, Ulfrun; I can see why you miss it. Now I could have debated the older fellow on the so-called continuity of the Bible (it&#039;s salvation trajectory) but he told me what he thought about it and I told him why I rejected that explanation and we left it at that. When you can shake hands afterward and honestly say you enjoyed the discussion it&#039;s a win for both &quot;sides.&quot; I particularly like the idea of focusing on a particular subject each week. That&#039;s a great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be nice, Ulfrun; I can see why you miss it. Now I could have debated the older fellow on the so-called continuity of the Bible (it&#8217;s salvation trajectory) but he told me what he thought about it and I told him why I rejected that explanation and we left it at that. When you can shake hands afterward and honestly say you enjoyed the discussion it&#8217;s a win for both &#8220;sides.&#8221; I particularly like the idea of focusing on a particular subject each week. That&#8217;s a great idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrafnkell</title>
		<link>http://aheathensday.com/2010/01/informational-proselytizing.html#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrafnkell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pom, it certainly took me by surprise. It was the last thing I expected to happen here. And I know the encounter would likely have been quite different had it been people from AoG; they&#039;d have been waving Bibles protectively in my face but it does show me that interfaith dialogue is possible. I almost look forward to talking to them again because I don&#039;t know if there is any kind of organized dialogue taking place where I live and I wouldn&#039;t mind getting the ball rolling. It would be nice to show people that Pagans and Christians can agree to disagree. Not everything has to end like this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2010/01/07/pagans-at-the-parliament-1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In 1993 representatives of the Greek Orthodox Church publicly pulled out of the Parliament of World Religions (PWR) to protest the inclusion of “godless” Pagans.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pom, it certainly took me by surprise. It was the last thing I expected to happen here. And I know the encounter would likely have been quite different had it been people from AoG; they&#8217;d have been waving Bibles protectively in my face but it does show me that interfaith dialogue is possible. I almost look forward to talking to them again because I don&#8217;t know if there is any kind of organized dialogue taking place where I live and I wouldn&#8217;t mind getting the ball rolling. It would be nice to show people that Pagans and Christians can agree to disagree. Not everything has to end like this: <a href="http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2010/01/07/pagans-at-the-parliament-1/" rel="nofollow">In 1993 representatives of the Greek Orthodox Church publicly pulled out of the Parliament of World Religions (PWR) to protest the inclusion of “godless” Pagans.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Makarios</title>
		<link>http://aheathensday.com/2010/01/informational-proselytizing.html#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>Makarios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds very encouraging. It reminded me of Prof. Leonard Swidler&#039;s well-known &quot;Dialogue Decalogue&quot; (viewable at http://astro.temple.edu/~dialogue/Antho/decalog.htm )

&lt;i&gt;&quot;In the religious-ideological sphere in the past, we came together to discuss with those differing with us, for example, Catholics with Protestants, either to defeat an opponent, or to learn about an opponent so as to deal more effectively with her or him, or at best to negotiate with him or her. If we faced each other at all, it was in confrontation--sometimes more openly polemically, sometimes more subtly so, but always with the ultimate goal of defeating the other, because we were convinced that we alone had the absolute truth.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;But dialogue is not debate. In dialogue each partner must listen to the other as openly and sympathetically as s/he can in an attempt to understand the other&#039;s position as precisely and, as it were, as much from within, as possible. . . .&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds very encouraging. It reminded me of Prof. Leonard Swidler&#8217;s well-known &#8220;Dialogue Decalogue&#8221; (viewable at <a href="http://astro.temple.edu/~dialogue/Antho/decalog.htm" rel="nofollow">http://astro.temple.edu/~dialogue/Antho/decalog.htm</a> )</p>
<p><i>&#8220;In the religious-ideological sphere in the past, we came together to discuss with those differing with us, for example, Catholics with Protestants, either to defeat an opponent, or to learn about an opponent so as to deal more effectively with her or him, or at best to negotiate with him or her. If we faced each other at all, it was in confrontation&#8211;sometimes more openly polemically, sometimes more subtly so, but always with the ultimate goal of defeating the other, because we were convinced that we alone had the absolute truth.</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;But dialogue is not debate. In dialogue each partner must listen to the other as openly and sympathetically as s/he can in an attempt to understand the other&#8217;s position as precisely and, as it were, as much from within, as possible. . . .&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Gorm_Sionnach</title>
		<link>http://aheathensday.com/2010/01/informational-proselytizing.html#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>Gorm_Sionnach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your blog via one of my GNA&#039;s, so first time commenter...

That such a dialogue is not only possible, but actually occurred between a Heathen and a JW is quite a heartening experience to read about. One becomes quite jaded when dealing with such entities via interfaith forums and the like, it is good to know that there are people out there who are willing to discuss such matters and leave in disagreement but without ill will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your blog via one of my GNA&#8217;s, so first time commenter&#8230;</p>
<p>That such a dialogue is not only possible, but actually occurred between a Heathen and a JW is quite a heartening experience to read about. One becomes quite jaded when dealing with such entities via interfaith forums and the like, it is good to know that there are people out there who are willing to discuss such matters and leave in disagreement but without ill will.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulfrun</title>
		<link>http://aheathensday.com/2010/01/informational-proselytizing.html#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulfrun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sound like a good experience. I hope you can have more such in the future.

Stuff like this is why I miss my Socratese Cafe group. I think I mentioned this once a while back, but we used to et together every week and ask questions. We would then focus on one question to discuss for the evening. What made it so wonderful though was the group of people, each with different beliefs and backgrounds. There were atheists, Catholics, Buddhists, Methodists, Wiccans, agnostics, and several others. I think I need to get on Mos Maorium more ofthen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sound like a good experience. I hope you can have more such in the future.</p>
<p>Stuff like this is why I miss my Socratese Cafe group. I think I mentioned this once a while back, but we used to et together every week and ask questions. We would then focus on one question to discuss for the evening. What made it so wonderful though was the group of people, each with different beliefs and backgrounds. There were atheists, Catholics, Buddhists, Methodists, Wiccans, agnostics, and several others. I think I need to get on Mos Maorium more ofthen.</p>
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